Saturday, June 26, 2010

Here's A Good Idea

Why doesn't Representative Don Pridemore move to Arizona.

Both Pridemore and the people of Wisconsin would be much happier that way.

The only downside would be that Arizona would probably want to declare war on us for that.

21 comments:

  1. I'd guess you'd want me to leave to then, right Capps? After all, I think if the Federal Government refuses to live up to it's Constitutional responsibilities, as it has for decades, then the States ought to be able to address the problem.

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  2. At least there is a politician in this state that knows Arizona is on the border with Mexico, unlike the loons on the county board.

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  3. Bill, are you concerned that you will be profiled on your appearance or what your name sounds like?

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  4. Capps, have you looked at the FEDERAL Law? The Fed law doesn't require an officer to be involved in another stop in order to check immigration status. They can just do it. The AZ law takes pains to avoid profiling. One of the lies, told even by the One, was that they could just stop them "in an Ice cream parlor" and check. That's a flat out lie. The Feds can, but not Az. If we don't enforce borders, or lawful immigration, the country dies.

    Also, by not enforcing immigration laws, you approve of slavery, which is what illegals wind up as. If you enforce the laws, on business, as well as illegal immigrants, then legal immigrants situation will improve. Reagan didn't fix the border when he gave amnesty. Thus, illegals that were suddenly legal, left the jobs that treat them like slaves. So those businesses needed new ones. That's what will happen this time, because Obama won't fix the border. He's even less motivated than Bush was.

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  5. I'm not listening to Obama on this. I am listening to the boots on the street, the cops that have to enforce this, and they are calling it BS. I am also seeing that the AZ Governor is now making wide, sweeping and racist comments about the border hoppers, which renews my suspicion on why this law was passed.

    Perhaps if they hadn't made the immigration laws so oppressive, there wouldn't be a problem now.

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  6. Bill, capper has a history of side stepping points when shown he is wrong. He has continually tried to show this is a racist law, irregardless that it echoes federal law. Pretending that he has heard from those on the street when in fact these same people on the street that ask for ID just proved citizenship (if residents of Az); all state ID is proof of citizenship. that's why the only people complaining of racism are the ones ignorant of the law.

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  7. Anonymous, or should I say Logic?,

    Bill and I have been friends for a couple, three years. I'm sure he knows much more of my foibles than the ones you want to make up.

    He also knows that I can grill up the best damn cheeseburgers in WI.

    Speaking of which: Bill, you got any time off coming?

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  8. Yes you could say that; logic. But if you spent as much time reading the Arizona law as you did comparing logs and IP addresses you would not make the false comments you did about the law.

    Your history of side stepping is hardly a foible, it results from failing to address the truth instead of misguided assumptions.

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  9. Maybe next month for the burgers. This one is a circle jerk.
    As to the point I'm trying to make. Think on this. E Pluribus Unum. Out of many, one. The ideal, is that people come to America to be Americans. Not foreign nationals with no allegiance to America, nor urge to become American, to learn English, and everything else that goes with being/becoming an American. This is the road to ruin. A good example is Rome. Early on, once you were Roman, you were under the Laws of Rome. The were the same, or as much as can be in any society, for ALL Romans. Once the populace started seeing themselves as other than Roman, Rome died a slow death. Due to this modern world, we won't be have such a slow end. No border security and no coherant immigration policy, combined with no will to ENFORCE current law, means a death sentence.

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  10. Well put Billiam.

    Capper is the Artful Dodger. I read this blog to hone my dodging skills.

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  11. If undocumented immigration is so bad for the US, then how did we as survive our first 100+ years without strict immigration controls?

    (In fact, we survived just fine; that's why this line of "our country will fail if Arizona doesn't pass this law" is bogus!)

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  12. D. Sharp, the first hundred years there was no law against it was there? And it looks like you too ignored the fact the Az law only echoes EXISTING federal law.

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  13. The arguments being used to rationalize the prejudice in the AZ law is the same ones used against the Irish, the Germans, the Italians and the Polish. We survived those and we will survive this.

    Anonymous Logic is only showing why the current laws need to be changed.

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  14. "If undocumented immigration is so bad for the US, then how did we as survive our first 100+ years without strict immigration controls?"

    Care to tell us about minim wage, mandatory insurance, OSHA, IRS, EPA and a myriad of state regulations enacted before our first 100+ years Einstein?

    I'm not saying all of this regulation is bad. That's a whole 'nuther argument.

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  15. Rationalize prejudice? Leave it to capper to suggest that enforcing current law is prejudice. The same law that applies to ALL people equally.

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  16. That's not what the cops that actually have to enforce the law are saying.

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  17. Cops in Arizona that you talked with have said it is racist to ask for an ID? The same police officers that are REQUIRED to ask for ID to do their jobs? Any state issued identification in Arizona meets the criteria of the new Az law to investigate up to the level of existing federal law.

    It seems the only people complaining of racism are the same ones ignorant of existing federal laws put in place by a dem president more than 60 years ago.

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  18. You mean I should tell it to the TWO officers who are taking legal action against the state over the law?

    One of the two was recently quoted, "It's not my job to split up families," "I guarantee you that we will not get help from the Hispanic community".

    So his personal beliefs of not WANTING to enforce existing federal law or new Az law puts him ABOVE his job as a law enforcement officer. Really that is the best you can come up with to defend this, someone that refuses to do the job they were hired to do?

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  19. So, why should I believe an anonymous ranter over someone who actually has experience in law enforcement and knows what works and what doesn't?

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  20. Don't believe me, read the laws; both federal and the new Az one. I never asked you to NOT read the law, on the contrary I have repeatedly asked you to read it and criticized you for not doing it.

    If after you read the law you have the same conclusion there is nothing more to say.

    BTW, there are thousands of other border agents, deputies, and police officers in Az who have no problem doing their job enforcing the law...

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